{"id":1748,"date":"2015-10-25T13:00:42","date_gmt":"2015-10-25T11:00:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/goldendawnwatch.org\/?p=1748"},"modified":"2015-11-18T13:01:49","modified_gmt":"2015-11-18T11:01:49","slug":"day-24-there-was-no-confrontation-they-just-attacked-us","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/goldendawnwatch.org\/en\/trial\/day-24-there-was-no-confrontation-they-just-attacked-us\/","title":{"rendered":"DAY 24: \u201cTHERE WAS NO CONFRONTATION; THEY JUST ATTACKED US\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"p1\"><b>24th Hearing, Women\u2019s Section, Korydallos Prison, Athens, 22 October 2015<\/b><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>1. Court access<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Hearings remain accessible to members of the public, provided they present their identity cards at the entrance. However, there were fewer members of the public in attendance than at the previous hearing. The spaces reserved for journalists are almost always occupied. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>2. Presence and representation of the defendants<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Nine (9) defendants were present at the beginning of the hearing. Twelve (12) defendants were listed as absent. The remaining defendants were represented either by their counsel or, provisionally, by their counsel\u2019s colleagues. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>3. Dimitris Melachrinopoulos\u2019 testimony (continued): cross-examination by the the defence<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Christoforos Tsagkas (Ioannis Aggos\u2019s new counsel) made assiduous attempts to demonstrate purported discrepancies and contradictions in the witness Dimitris Melachrinopoulos\u2019 four statements. He asked the witness if he was calm and lucid when he made the statements and which of the four statements was closest to the truth. The witness explained that the holes in his previous testimony were the result of shock and the fact that the investigators asked very specific questions; as time went by, he calmed down and his memory became clearer. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">N. Kontovazenitis (counsel for Anastasios Anadiotis) was interested in the witness\u2019s political convictions. The presiding judge did not allow these questions. However, the witness managed to say that no party represented him. The same counsel continued to ask the witness if he suffered from any sight problems that would have made it difficult for him to make out whether there were five or seven assailants; he asked the witness if the three people who approached Pavlos Fyssas on Pavlou Mela street were part of the group of 40 he had described as an assault division. The witness responded that he was in no position to discern whether those three people were in the mob. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Dimitra Velentza (for Ioannis Kazantzoglou) asked clarifying questions about the witness\u2019s testimonies. She asked how long the witness\u2019s first statement took to make, how he delivered it, and whether he was sitting on a chair when he gave it. She asked about the timing of the events and the testimonies. While reading an excerpt from the testimony that is stated to have been taken in Keratsini, she concluded \u2013 incorrectly \u2013 that it had actually been given at Attica General Police Headquarters (GADA) and that the timeline provided by the witness could not possibly be right. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The civil action protested strongly and asked the counsel to read the statement more carefully and not to mislead the witness. The judge confirmed that the witness had made the statement in Keratsini and not at Attica General Police Headquarters. Ms Velentza also asked the witness why someone holding a bludgeon would choose to kick their victim. The witness stated that he had been hit from behind and sensed that it was a kick. He added that he had seen the bludgeons held by the mob earlier and not while he was being attacked. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Vasilis Oplantzakis (also for Ioannis Kazantzoglou) tried to show the witness a picture of the outside of Koralli [a bar], asking the witness to identify key points that led to the development of the incident. The photograph was not accepted by the court as it showed only a limited area of the space outside the bar. The counsel asked the witness whether he remembered the movements of Fyssas\u2019 assailants after the attack. The witness replied that the attack on Fyssas began with a small group beating him; that group left and another showed up to replace it. Then Roupakias showed up and the second group formed a circle around Fyssas, \u201cthen some of them stood back so Pavlos could see Roupakias arriving\u201d. He added that the people there were shouting, \u201ccome here, you chickens!\u201d, but that he didn\u2019t hear anything specifically geared towards encouraging the killer. He said he heard the constant rumble of the Golden Dawners stamping their feet and their shouting, \u201ccome here, we\u2019ll kill you\u201d. Here he stopped to clarify to the counsel that when he says that \u201cPavlos resisted\u201d, he doesn\u2019t mean that he was actually fighting; he was one man against five or six. \u201cHe was standing and trying to defend himself.\u201d Moreover, following a question from the counsel, he stated that he helped the two paramedics put Fyssas in the ambulance by holding his arms and head. He added that the body was very heavy and that his own clothes were stained with his friend\u2019s blood.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Giorgos Roumpekas (counsel for Giorgos Roupakias) asked questions about the specific way and place that his client parked his car before the killing, and how exactly he moved towards Fyssas. He also asked what the others did and how Fyssas reacted after the blows. The witness again described the timeline of the incident and said that he asked Fyssas if he wanted some water. He went into a nearby shop and bought water. Fyssas drank one drop and spat it out. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The other defence counsels repeatedly solicited clarifications from the witness, attempting to identify gaps, omissions and contradictions in his testimony. Specifically, A. Mammis (counsel for Nikolaos Tsorvas) brought up the following: \u201cI\u2019m going to point out some contradictions. In your first testimony, you said that Roupakias was alone, with no one in the passenger seat. Later you said that there was someone in the passenger seat and two women seated behind. Which is the truth?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Civil counsel reacted, stating: \u201cRoupakias\u2019 car appeared twice; once in the beginning and then again on Tsaldari street. Which time are you talking about?\u201d The judge asked the counsel to identify the point in the statement in which he sees the contradiction. Amid the ruckus between civil and defence counsels, Mammis continued: \u201cIn Piraeus, you told the the investigating magistrate about two women. Is that true?\u201d Judge: \u201cWhy does this need to be clarified?\u201d Here, civil counsel Thanasis Kampagiannis intervened: \u201cNo clarification needs to be made; the witness was talking about two different moments in the incident. The counsel is making every effort to mislead the witness.\u201d The witness clarified that when Roupakias stopped on Kefallinias St to ask for directions, there were other people in the car. Later, when he got out of the car on Tsaldari St, there was no one else in the car. In response to a following question regarding the time it took Doulvaris (an eyewitness and friend of Fyssas) to arrive at the scene after the confrontation, the witness said, visibly irritated: \u201cDoulvaris told me that he had walked around but please don\u2019t call it a scuffle; there was no scuffle. We were attacked. I respect you and the court, but please, it was an attack.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>4. Application regarding perjury; response from the civil action<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Periklis Stavrianakis (counsel for Christos Pappas) took the floor and questioned the witness on whether there was a verbal altercation between Roupakias and Fyssas and on whether the whole party wanted to leave Koralli. His suggestion was that only Fyssas and Doulvaris were eager to leave. The witness replied that the entire party wanted to leave and asked why that was relevant. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The counsel then spoke of glaring contradictions that cast doubt on the reliability of the witness and asked that the bench order \u201cthe detention of the witness, as warranted by article 337 of the code of criminal procedure, until the suspicions of perjury can be dispelled.\u201d He continued, \u201cI refuse to accept that anyone can slap his palm on a bible and say whatever he likes. I\u2019m convinced that this man is lying, and the rules must be kept.\u201d He asked the court to come to a decision as quickly as possible. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">The judge called for a break and returned with the decision. She ruled that articles 1 and 2 of article 337 of the code of criminal procedure are not applicable in the case of lengthy trials. She dismissed the defence\u2019s request as groundless. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Mr Kampagiannis protested strongly: \u201cThese people, who bless themselves praying that they get the go-ahead to slaughter innocent people are the ones who besmirch the bible, not those people who honour their oath and who have submitted their testimony with courage over and over since the night their best friend died in their arms.\u201d Moreover, he tried to submit a statement on behalf of all civil counsels denouncing the defence\u2019s blatant disrespect for witnesses. The judge did not allow him to continue and asked him to draft and submit a comprehensive statement. Mr Kambagiannis continued, referring this time to the similarly brazen stance of MPs in a recent sitting of parliament. The judge responded: \u201cThat is none of our concern. Do you have anything specific to say?\u201d The civil counsel continued, referring to \u201csarcastic remarks\u201d and \u201cjeering\u201d from the defence. The judge then cut him off. \u201cPlease take your sensationalism to the press; it is of no interest to the court.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>5. Statements by the civil action on Melachrinopoulos\u2019 testimony <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Counsels for the Fyssas family took the floor first. Andreas Tzelis (counsel for Panagiotis Fyssas) commented: <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 As far as regards the other people in the car, the witness said he saw four others in the car one time and only Roupakias the next time. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 As far as it concerns Patelis, the witness knows what he knows from the press. He can\u2019t know everything. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 The statements were made following some people\u2019s attempt to mislead the witness. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 Let Lagos come here and tell us whether he made the much-contested phone call in order to discuss Paris Saint-Germain\u2019s goal or something else. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 The witness said that he couldn\u2019t think clearly with his friend\u2019s blood still on him, but the matter of whether there were four or five assailants makes no difference in a case like this. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Chrysa Papadopoulou (counsel for Irini Fyssa) then made her comments:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 The contradictions concern the number of individuals involved and the exact timeline of the events. What difference does it make if the crime was committed at a quarter or ten to the hour if 40 [people] attacked eight and the result was the death of one of them?<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 The essence of the testimony is what counts and the witness has been true to the essentials. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Civil counsels for the Egyptian fishermen then took the floor. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Thanasis Kambagiannis spoke of efforts to mislead the witness and emphasized the following points: <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 The presence of an armed assault division on Mela St has been demonstrated. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 The attack was unprovoked. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 The assault was organized. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Takis Zotos stressed the following points:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 The assault division was already there<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 It was an armed unit<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Thodoros Theodoropoulos, counsel for the PAME trade unionists, commented:<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 I have noticed attempts to slander the witness. Aside from the clear inapplicability of the provision for perjury, the request did not arise from any substantial or legitimate concern for the witnesses\u2019 reliability. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">Angelos Vrettos, also for the PAME members, said: <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 It has been proven that the districts of Nikea, Perama and Keratsini are managed by Lagos, with Patelis below him. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 It has been proven that a Nikea assault division exists and is directed by Kasidiaris. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">\u2013 All of the attacks follow a similar pattern. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">At this point, the court decided to adjourn until Wednesday 4 November. <\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>24th Hearing, Women\u2019s Section, Korydallos Prison, Athens, 22 October 2015 1. Court access Hearings remain accessible to members of the public, provided they present their identity cards at the entrance. However, there were fewer members of the public in attendance than at the previous hearing. The spaces reserved for journalists are almost always occupied. 2. 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